{"id":649,"date":"2016-04-28T09:10:18","date_gmt":"2016-04-28T08:10:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/pcll.ac-dijon.fr\/pcll\/?p=649"},"modified":"2017-01-27T14:09:06","modified_gmt":"2017-01-27T13:09:06","slug":"atelier-ouvert-interoperabilite-des-messageries","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pcll.ac-dijon.fr\/pcll\/blog\/2016\/04\/atelier-ouvert-interoperabilite-des-messageries\/","title":{"rendered":"Atelier ouvert interop\u00e9rabilit\u00e9 des messageries"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>La Direction Interminist\u00e9rielle du Num\u00e9rique et du Syst\u00e8me d&rsquo;Information et de Communication de l\u2019\u00c9tat a organis\u00e9 le 22 Avril \u00e0 Paris, un atelier Interop\u00e9rabilit\u00e9 des syst\u00e8mes de messageries r\u00e9unissant des \u00e9diteurs de solutions et des utilisateurs.<\/strong><\/p>\n<span class=\"symple-highlight symple-highlight-blue \">Ceci n&rsquo;est pas un compte-rendue officiel, juste le r\u00e9cit de ma participation.<\/span>\n<div id=\"attachment_652\" style=\"width: 464px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/pcll.ac-dijon.fr\/pcll\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2016\/04\/atelier_messagerie1.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-652\" class=\" wp-image-652\" src=\"http:\/\/pcll.ac-dijon.fr\/pcll\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2016\/04\/atelier_messagerie1-300x169.jpeg\" alt=\"Ouverture de l'atelier messagerie\" width=\"454\" height=\"255\" srcset=\"https:\/\/pcll.ac-dijon.fr\/pcll\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2016\/04\/atelier_messagerie1-300x169.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/pcll.ac-dijon.fr\/pcll\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2016\/04\/atelier_messagerie1.jpeg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 454px) 100vw, 454px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-652\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Introduction par J\u00e9rome Ploquin (DINSIC)<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Trois ateliers ont \u00e9t\u00e9 constitu\u00e9s autours des th\u00e8mes suivants<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\u00c9change de messages s\u00e9curis\u00e9s<\/li>\n<li>Gestion des agendas<\/li>\n<li>Accessibilit\u00e9<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>J&rsquo;ai particip\u00e9 au\u00a0 premier atelier et nous avons utilis\u00e9 les produits: Alinto, Bluemind, BMVerse, Kolab, OBM, OXApp, Office365, Yaziba, SOGO.<br \/>\n[symple_divider\u00a0 margin_top=\u00a0\u00bb1&Prime; margin_bottom=\u00a0\u00bb1&Prime;]Apr\u00e8s un bref tour de table, la discussion s&rsquo;engage, une liste de cas d&rsquo;usage est \u00e9tablie:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li id=\"magicdomid28\" class=\"primary-author-a-z88z6hz79zz80ziz78zoz80z9z82zrz86z4z69zz86z\"><span class=\"author-a-z88z6hz79zz80ziz78zoz80z9z82zrz86z4z69zz86z\">Envoyer un message en chiffrement end to end sur tous devices .<\/span><\/li>\n<li id=\"magicdomid29\" class=\"primary-author-a-z88z6hz79zz80ziz78zoz80z9z82zrz86z4z69zz86z\"><span class=\"author-a-z88z6hz79zz80ziz78zoz80z9z82zrz86z4z69zz86z\">Envoyer un message sign\u00e9 pour assurer l&rsquo;identit\u00e9 de l&rsquo;envoyeur<\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"primary-author-a-z88z6hz79zz80ziz78zoz80z9z82zrz86z4z69zz86z\"><span class=\"author-a-z81zz75zmbz66zz74zz74zye4z68z558iz75z\">Accus\u00e9s de r\u00e9ception \/ accus\u00e9s de lecture<\/span><\/li>\n<li id=\"magicdomid30\" class=\"primary-author-a-z88z6hz79zz80ziz78zoz80z9z82zrz86z4z69zz86z\"><span class=\"author-a-z88z6hz79zz80ziz78zoz80z9z82zrz86z4z69zz86z\">S&rsquo;assurer de l&rsquo;authenticit\u00e9 de l&rsquo;horodatage<\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"primary-author-a-z88z6hz79zz80ziz78zoz80z9z82zrz86z4z69zz86z\"><span class=\"author-a-z88z6hz79zz80ziz78zoz80z9z82zrz86z4z69zz86z\">Recherche d&rsquo;un courriel ou d&rsquo;un document chiffr\u00e9 par son contenu<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Discussion sur les standards \u00e0 utiliser<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li id=\"magicdomid35\" class=\"primary-author-a-z88z6hz79zz80ziz78zoz80z9z82zrz86z4z69zz86z\"><span class=\"author-a-z88z6hz79zz80ziz78zoz80z9z82zrz86z4z69zz86z\">PGP (<a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Pretty_Good_Privacy\" target=\"_blank\">Notice Wikipedia<\/a>)<br \/>\n<\/span><\/li>\n<li id=\"magicdomid36\" class=\"primary-author-a-z88z6hz79zz80ziz78zoz80z9z82zrz86z4z69zz86z\"><span class=\"author-a-z88z6hz79zz80ziz78zoz80z9z82zrz86z4z69zz86z\">TLS (<a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Transport_Layer_Security\" target=\"_blank\">Notice Wikipedia<\/a>)<br \/>\n<\/span><\/li>\n<li id=\"magicdomid37\" class=\"primary-author-a-darpyuz80z6nz77zyz66zz84zhz80ze\"><span class=\"author-a-darpyuz80z6nz77zyz66zz84zhz80ze\">SMIME <span class=\"author-a-z88z6hz79zz80ziz78zoz80z9z82zrz86z4z69zz86z\"> (<a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/S\/MIME\" target=\"_blank\">Notice Wikipedia<\/a>)<\/span><br \/>\n<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div class=\"symple-box gray center\" style=\"text-align:left;\">\n<p><span class=\"author-a-z79zz78zz81zz79z6z87zz81z6z68zz74z0z71zz88zsz67zz122z\"><strong>Pr\u00e9alables<\/strong> <\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"magicdomid38\" class=\"primary-none\">\n<ul>\n<li><span class=\"author-a-z79zz78zz81zz79z6z87zz81z6z68zz74z0z71zz88zsz67zz122z\">V<\/span><span class=\"author-a-z88z6hz79zz80ziz78zoz80z9z82zrz86z4z69zz86z\">\u00e9rifier la pr\u00e9sence du TLS sur les plateformes<\/span><\/li>\n<li>G\u00e9n\u00e9rer les cl\u00e9s BGP pour tous le monde\n<div class=\"primary-author-a-z88z6hz79zz80ziz78zoz80z9z82zrz86z4z69zz86z\"><\/div><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"magicdomid38\" class=\"primary-none\">\n<div class=\"primary-author-a-z88z6hz79zz80ziz78zoz80z9z82zrz86z4z69zz86z\">[symple_divider\u00a0 margin_top=\u00a0\u00bb20&Prime; margin_bottom=\u00a0\u00bb20&Prime;]<\/div>\n<div class=\"primary-author-a-z88z6hz79zz80ziz78zoz80z9z82zrz86z4z69zz86z\"><strong>D\u00e9but des tests !<\/strong><\/div>\n<div class=\"primary-author-a-z88z6hz79zz80ziz78zoz80z9z82zrz86z4z69zz86z\">Apr\u00e8s nous \u00eatre distribu\u00e9 les comptes ouverts sur toute les plateformes mise \u00e0 notre disposition, nous d\u00e9couvrons les interfaces web des produits\u00a0 (Kolab pour moi).<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>Premier test,\u00a0 nous postons chacun un mail \u00e0 destination de tous les autres. Pas de surprise, nous \u00e9changeons sans probl\u00e8me les plateformes sont bien configur\u00e9es \ud83d\ude09 Les accus\u00e9s de r\u00e9ception fonctionnent aussi ; sur certaines plateformes, il n&rsquo;a pas \u00e9t\u00e9 \u00e9vident de trouver et de faire le r\u00e9glage mais au final tout est OK.<\/p>\n[symple_divider\u00a0 margin_top=\u00a0\u00bb10&Prime; margin_bottom=\u00a0\u00bb10&Prime;]\n<p>Passons donc aux \u00e9changes s\u00e9curis\u00e9s avec BGP\/PGP.\u00a0 Seuls deux produits g\u00e8rent nativement depuis leur interface web les cl\u00e9s ,\u00a0 OXApp\u00a0 et Yaziba (Zimbra). Pour les autres, nous utiliserons l\u2019extension\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.mailvelope.com\/\" target=\"_blank\"> Mailvelope.\u00a0<\/a>\u00a0 (disponible pour Firefox et Chrome) L&rsquo;installation du plugin ne pose pas de probl\u00e8me, la configuration non plus et il s&rsquo;av\u00e8re compatible avec tous nos webmails. Nous postons chacun un mail chiffr\u00e9 \u00e0 destination des autres.\u00a0 Les mails sont correctement re\u00e7us et d\u00e9chiffr\u00e9s par les destinataires.<\/p>\n[symple_divider\u00a0 margin_top=\u00a0\u00bb10&Prime; margin_bottom=\u00a0\u00bb10&Prime;]\n<p><strong>En guise de conclusions de notre atelier :<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Il n&rsquo;est pas indispensable d&rsquo;avoir une solution identique pour communiquer. Ce n&rsquo;est pas vraiment une surprise, les protocoles de messageries\u00a0 \u00e9tant normalis\u00e9s depuis longtemps mais l&rsquo;atelier a permis de\u00a0 confirmer qu&rsquo;en usage standard\u00a0 il n&rsquo;y pas de probl\u00e8me majeur d\u2019interop\u00e9rabilit\u00e9.<\/p>\n[symple_divider\u00a0 margin_top=\u00a0\u00bb5&Prime; margin_bottom=\u00a0\u00bb5&Prime;]\n<p>Effectuer\u00a0 des tests crois\u00e9s entre toutes les solutions, c&rsquo;est long et nous avons manqu\u00e9 de temps par rapport aux objectifs que nous nous \u00e9tions fix\u00e9s. Les \u00e9diteurs \u00e9taient l\u00e0 pour nous aider, mais ils ne pouvaient pas \u00eatre \u00e0 tous les ateliers en m\u00eame temps. Les \u00e9changes ont \u00e9t\u00e9 enrichissant ; les participants sont satisfaits et pr\u00eats \u00e0 recommencer \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n<p><strong>Retour rapide des autres ateliers :<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ateliers Agenda :\u00a0 A l\u2019exceptions des \u00e9v\u00e9nements r\u00e9currents, pas de probl\u00e8me majeur non plus.<\/p>\n[symple_divider\u00a0 margin_top=\u00a0\u00bb5&Prime; margin_bottom=\u00a0\u00bb5&Prime;]Ateliers Accessibilit\u00e9 :\u00a0 Test avec\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nvda-fr.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">NVDA : Outils de synth\u00e8se vocale ou braille. <\/a>Les interfaces webmail ne sont pas tr\u00e8s adapt\u00e9es, certaines sont m\u00eame compl\u00e8tement inutilisables. Avec les clients lourds c&rsquo;est mieux.<\/p>\n<p><strong>En guise de conclusions g\u00e9n\u00e9rales:<br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>L&rsquo;interop\u00e9rabilit\u00e9 est un sujet qui int\u00e9resse utilisateurs et \u00e9diteurs.\u00a0 Tous sont d&rsquo;accord pour refaire ce type de rencontre, mais avec des objectifs plus pr\u00e9cis, en particulier pour tester des usages plus avanc\u00e9s (messagerie instantan\u00e9e, pi\u00e8ce jointe stock\u00e9 dans un nuage, contacts partag\u00e9s, recherche de disponibilit\u00e9,\u00a0 etc, etc) .\u00a0 Pour permettre de pr\u00e9parer les prochains ateliers, les \u00e9diteurs laissent \u00e0 disposition les plates-formes de tests.<\/p>\n<p>Merci \u00e0 eux et merci \u00e0 la DINSIC pour l&rsquo;organisation<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>La Direction Interminist\u00e9rielle du Num\u00e9rique et du Syst\u00e8me d&rsquo;Information et de Communication de l\u2019\u00c9tat a organis\u00e9 le 22 Avril \u00e0 Paris, un atelier Interop\u00e9rabilit\u00e9 des syst\u00e8mes de messageries r\u00e9unissant des \u00e9diteurs de solutions et des utilisateurs. 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